Yeah I get it. Your messy and semi magical. I like the swagger and garage warrior attitude, but the sound file on your website indicates you may play to many musical parts. I like tension and restraint in my Rock N Roll and metal music.
I judge everything from a AC/DC with Bon Scott-Early Black Sabbath perspective. When bands play with those kinds of holes in the soundthe audience can fall in the holes and become absorbed in the psychedelic-Satan aspect you know its like falling into a to burning Vaginal in slow motion.
That's just a little taste. There's plenty of more. I'll see if I can get Todd their record label guy to send you the CD. I've got a 7in. by them coming out as well in a few weeks. Do you have a turntable? I'll send you one. Keep you eyes out for Wisconsin. The Mystery Girls are just one example...
Um,
We don't have a promo package. We never saw a need for one. As for the flaming vaginas I'd rather not fall into one I'd rather be engulfed by it. I prefer John Coltrane's Ascension for a musical stance. Make your audience bleed.
JOrdan
Mystery Girl(Garage Rock Warrior)
If we did have a promo Why Would we want to send it to you?
Swaggering Semi-MAgical
Jordan
I told our label you were interested in the band. He is going to send copy of our album on CD since we don't have a promo kit. Oh well. I'd like to hear what you think of it.
Jordan
No Turntable, send everything Wisconsin
Hello Dale,
Are you a manager or a record company? Please Clarify
Sincerely
Kim Fowley
700-U E. Redlands Blvd
PMB 352
Redlands, CA 92373
p.s. Hey dude, why the crappy attitude from your piece of meat? Don't need moron presentation. We have enough of that crap here in California, the moron capital of the world. I don't do business with morons. I ignore them.
For those not familiar with who Kim Fowley is a little history lesson is in order. He is well into his fifth decade of the music business. He started back in the 1950's working for Sonny Bono. At the age of twenty he scored his first number one hit by co-producing a song that anyone who owns one of the K-Tel "Silly Songs" type collections know all too well-"Alley Opp" by the Hollywood Argyles. He's the guy who brought the world the Runaways (which in turn brought us Joan Jett) and through the years has worked in different capacities with KISS, Alice Cooper, the Modern Lovers and the Germs (just to name a very scant few). He's a producer, songwriter, publisher, consultant, performer, manager...He's done it all. He's been called a genius, an idiot, a hustler, a hack...(just to name a very scant few again)
One day this past summer at the record store I used to work at we were suffering through a hot and lazy day. The store had been dead all day and needed to be livened up. I went out to my car and grabbed my Mystery Girls CD-R of what became their full-length and threw it in the stores sound system. One of the customers in the store was Matthew Smith (Outrageous Cherry/Volebeats) and it perked up his ears. He started asking me about the band so I gave him the whole "Mindblowing Teenage Rock-n-Roll from a literal cowtown." He seem to not be believing what he was hearing "They can't all be that young! and GREEN BAY?!?! What is going on up there." He then mentioned to me that keeps in contact with Kim Fowley (Matt and him collaborated on an album in the mid-90's). Matt mentioned that Kim had just appeared on VH1's "Driven" program about Motley Crue (He gave the Crue their first publishing deal with "Stick To Your Guns) and ever since then he's been getting calls from record company people asking him what the "Next big thing" is. Matthew, impressed by what he was hearing over the speakers, then said "And this could be it."
"I hope so" I added "Cuz I have a single that I'm putting out by them"
He wanted to buy it right then and there but I told him that he's have to wait because the album would be out in a few weeks. A few weeks later he came in, bought a copy and that was the last I even thought about his Kim Fowley connection. A couple of months later Jim Diamond mentions to me that Fowley had called him and was asking him what he knew about the Mystery Girls. Jim said he told him what he knew and said he would mention it too me if/when he saw me. Jim's shakin' his head at bit after telling me this. He worked with Fowley on his and Matthew Smith's projects. He's got some stories to tell but that's not what this article is about. I figured "What the hell!" and fired off Kim an email
Not more than half a day later he sent this reply
After recieving this I fowarded to Todd Tricknee, the band and posted it on the Wisconsin Rock-n-Roll message board then replied replied to Kim's message
Here's Mystery Girls Jordan's email response.
When I first read this email I didn't understand what he meant in the p.s. Attached was a message he sent to Jordan
Hello Rude Person,
If you read my website at www.kimfowley.com you will find that I'm a music biz professional who has been involved in many successful projects. People like me receive music in the mail because we often times can contribute something to the people who make that music.
I didn't seek you out, other people told me you were worth while. Maybe you are just punk pigs who are a waste of my time? I don't need bad attitude from you. I have enough of my own. Ask Dale and Jim Diamond from Ghetto Recording Studio in Detroit why I'm worth communicating with. Jim engineered the first White Stripe album and I have had more hits that them or Jim. Don't make me an enemy with your crummy attitude. Get over your bad self. Don't make me your enemy
KF
Hello good sir,
I am not the rude person that replied before, that was jordan, I'm casey, this is our band email, he generally deals with it though, but reading your message here I thought I'd write you and let you know Jordan doesn't speak for all of us, I don't know what he said to you, but I can imagine, I can assure you that all of us know who you are, and what you've done, I've read all about you in ugly things, I definitley respect you and what a lot of what you've done, and so do the rest of us, including Jordan, I know he does, we've talked about you before, the thing is we've been warned by a few people that we might not want to deal with you, so this may be why Jordan talked the way he did, he was probably trying to get a rise out of you, or scare you of or something stupid, I think it's great you like our band and it can only help us to have someone like you listening to us, but whatever, don't be too mad, goodbye, my personal email address is yescaseyyes@hotmail.com , if you want to reply to this message send it there please
By this point Fowley had started to attach every email he was getting concerning the Mystery Girls to everyone who had written him about it. Mystery Girls Casey sent Fowley this
SO WHAT?
Hello Casey,
If people have warned you that I am not the person you should deal with, then you shouldn't have approached me in the first place. My message to those people is "get your hatred priorities straight so I can destroy you on whatever battlefield you choose."
My other message is Nothing scares me. Threats-Accusation-lawsuits-burniogns-beetings-shootings-stabbings have not stopped my onslaught through the Rock N Roll wasteland since 1959. Before that I was in the Army and Air Force, that's where I learned my combat skills which still work today. Don't bother me. Don't act like brats and morons. It's a waste of your time. Don't bother making an enemy out of me. It wont be pleasant.
Now what are the people that warned you going to do? Its there move. I'm just not a nice person. And you don't need them to warn you. You already know that.
All 4 of you people that have e-mailed me, don't bother e-mailing me back, I'm not your new e-mail pen pal, and you guys are still stuck in Wisconsin...duh?
KF
Here's what Fowley wrote back to Casey
I didn't really want Kim Fowley as a pen-pal either but it is funny how he flatters himself. The thing was he was talking to 4 people. I only counted three. Here's the 4th person brought into the fray.
Greetings,
I'm not giving you bad additude, and don't think I don't know who you are. I was was simply curious as to what you would do with our Promo package(If we had one). Our LAbel already has a record in the mail for you. Don't Fret, I was just giving you shit because I thought what you wrote was funny. Anyway, I'm pretty sure what you heard on the website (assuming it's SmashinTransistors) were old recordings done in our basement. I think you'll find our studio recordings much more appeasing to the Flaming Vaginals.
Were you really present for some of the Flamin'Groovie's Teenage Head sessions?
Primitively yours,
Jordan
To which Fowley repied
Hello Jordan,
I make people money if I hear money. I was not present for the session you referred to. I was to busy making better recordings. Later Dude
KF
This was into reply of my previous letter
Jordan's response
Hi, Kim,
I just wanted to congratulate you for being 100% on-the-ball yet again. I was forwarded your email interest in the Mystery Girls. I am barely even a partial observer of their spectacle, but I love them to a pretty ridiculous degree, since I've only heard them on a CD that was sent to me for designing the Trick Knee website. Truly an amazing band. I was wondering what it would take in order to get some intelligent people to notice them. Now, I see: all it takes is the honest interest of one Mr. Kim Fowley.
I just want to inform you, they are sort of (my guess) not very promotional, but I would be glad to give you a copy of the CD I received as payment for my internet design (ha, ha) services. I am trying to give this album to anybody who will listen to me, so giving it to you would be a great honor.
Quite honestly, I've been a fan of yours for over half of my life, when I discovered Sonic Youth's
"Bubblegum" (perhaps one of their greatest songs) was not quite anoriginal
Not surprisingly, I enjoyed the Kim Fowley production much more. You
absolutely are a master of your domain. This may be the only chance I get to give you proper credit, kudos and whatnot, so I'm trying to fit it all in while you're still listening. You fucking rule. How's
that?
Nate
Kim said this to him
Hello Nate,
Teach them to be more gracious.
Sincerely
KF
He sent this to Nate as well
Hello Nate,
Read the e-mails and send the record. I guess punk bands have to act like punk people. I'm sure they enjoyed themselves. So What? They probably won't make it. But it would be fascinating to hear there product which may not be ultimate.
KF
Earlier Fowley commented that he didn't seek out the band. I sent him an email questioning the statement because he did call Jim Diamond asking about them. He couldn't deny it but here's what he had to say.
Hello Dale,
Your right. I was told about thee Mystery Girls by Matt Smith so I asked to hear a copy from Jim Diamond. I am a consultant and a record producer for various important record companies.
I didn't ask to hear the music so I could engage in name-calling-threats or insults. I asked to hear there music based on professional curiosity. The band gets to raise hell because they're punks. I get to be offensive because I am offensive. I don't want to ever hear from anybody again concerning this bandgee it really must be boring cold and futile up in Wisconsin. Inst that the place where everybody's brain is made of cheese.
Maybe the Mystery Girls should put out an album called Cheese Head A Go-Go. There name suggests there into drag queen culture the album cover should be: Drag Queens with mutilated underwear standing knee deep in Cow Shit ridden cheese giving the finger to the camera with one hand, and setting fires to the guitar bass and drumsticks with the other hand.
This suggestion is my only contribution to there career. Long may they rot. Long may they offend?
Everyone connected with the Mystery Girls, please don't send me e-mails anymore. I got the joke.
KF
Here's what Fowley wrote me concerning Casey's letter
Hello Dale,
Send me copies of anything good. I don't have time for brat people. Not interested in wasting my time with morons. The lead singer can make his crow magnums groupies pregnant, and they can all live with there deformed children in a burning trailer with no plumbing.
KF
Cool! Ya'd think Fowley would be happy with his last words but this is where things get weird. There was a thread running in the Wisconsin Rock-n-Roll board concerning Kim's initail comments. He found it and decided to comment on them in an email fowarded to a bunch of people (Yet not addressed in the board itself. I'll try to break it down and explain what I remember.
Hello Cheese Heads. Starting tomorrow I am going to be working for a film project. I won't be receiving e-mails anymore at this address as my new gig is taking me on location to Northern California. So no telephone, no snail mail, no e-mail.
To answer various questions and to respond to various comments, California isn't based on plastic and sand, it's based on logic and reality. At least the music business wars are. Never heard of Wendy? (He commented that Wisconsin was based on cheese products..."Isn't California based on plastic and sand" was asked. "Is Wendy a guy?" was the other guestion.)
Alley Oop was 42 years ago. (I mentioned that my kid's like the song) My last visit to Detroit was 5 years ago. There was no legal action for any telephone activities. I remember a free for all gig at the Magic Stick which was in the spirit and fun of puck rock. (Rachel from the Detroit Cobras tackled him when he was on stage. The phone comment comes from when someone told me that Kim Fowley would constantly called them with wild ideas at all hours of the night. This person said they were almost forced to take legal action to get Kim to cease) I didn't mention Sonic Youth recording my song "bubble gum" because it may have slipped my mind. It's hard to keep track of every credit and footnote. (Fowley's website mentions every achievement he's had except for Sonic Youth covering his song)
During my absence from this e-mail address to gig in Northern California until January, I recommend the following events take place. 1) Mystery Girls continue to rock the house and push there music to anyone who will listen. 2) Dale endorses his faves the Mystery Girls to anyone who will listen. 3) Yaledelay and all the folks in the Wisconsin rock world keep on rocking.
My presence-persona-way of communicating has caused me various confrontational adventures for many years.
My own mother was so disgusted that she stuck me in a foster home when I was a year and a half old. My father found me in the home and later dumped me for good in a polio hospital when I was 17 years old. So as a semi-crippled obnoxious abandoned and neglected person, I have chosen to live my life as I see fit. You aren't the first group of people to be annoyednor will you be the last. I'm happy to report hat both my father and mother are dead, so I got even by outlasting them. That's what my other enemies have also learned: No matter how hard an enemy may try, I break patterns and do reinvention activities with new groups of people who don't battle me on un-necessary issues.
The new people I choose to work with after these various rock n roll hostile encounters generally don't care about these issues and are happy to work with me in the areas where my music biz skills are welcome. This will be my last e-mail to all of you in the Mystery Girls saga. IF you e-mail me at the addresses that you may have they will be discarded. They will not forward them on to me because there's no logical reason or even financial reason that I would benefit from them.
I'm sure all of you will find some other diversion and target for your rock n roll anger and boredom.
The best bit of advice: Support your local rock n roll heroes try to help them as best you can. Battling people like me has no happy ending. I always win because I don't battle. I just go onto the next gig. After January 03 I will be in the UK. Yes I'll be performing live in London, yes it'll be an obnoxious gig, and yes we will bring the mosh pit on stage. It'll be well advertised. That's the time for you cheese heads to get even. I'll look forward to meeting each and every one of you ion stagedon't worry it will be a well advertised gig. Be sure to yell cheese head as you come flying across the stage lightsthen I'll know I've been a bad bad boy. Do your worst cheese heads see you in January '03 live in London.
Sincerely
Your worst nightmare KF
Didn't he say in the message before this one would be the last concerning this subject? Well, he sent me one more
Hello Dale,
Why don't you quit your job at Record Time and form a recording company...call it Roseville records. You can take all the money you have saved and all the money you can borrow and you can go and finance each group that you mentioned in your last e-mail from Wisconsin or wherever.
You will then become a better version of me, because I don't own a record company in the year 2002. just imagine the glory and satisfaction of being CEO-Founder of Roseville Records. You will become very rich and very celebrated. Your children could of to an ivy league college, you could have servants, you could but a home for your parents. If you become a record company owner and sponsor the group you mentioned in you last e-mail. You will gain enemies. Playa haters.. and you'll get unwelcome e-mail form people like me if you do it for as many years as I've been doing it you'll find that hateful vicious people yell scream and complain, but they cant produce records. They cant make stars, and they cant do it year after year town after town.
If you love these bands o much then form a record company and make them rich and famous. As I told you in my last hateful e-mail, I'm on my way to my next gig. Your one of my last e-mails. Don't send any more e-mails. Start your record company.
Good Luck
Sincerely
A. Wisconsin Rock N Roll Fan
This is strange. I never mentioned where I worked to him. He must've collected the info from somewhere else. I don't know whether to be honored or freaked out by his detective work. The record label "advice" is pretty funny. Bancroft Records had already started but instead of it being named after the city I worked in it was named after street I live on....The biggest irony is a few days after I got this email I was let go from my job...
Yeah I get it. Your messy and semi magical. I like the swagger and garage warrior attitude, but the sound file on your website indicates you may play to many musical parts. I like tension and restraint in my Rock N Roll and metal music. 
